The Black Pope
This is a hard hitting, blockbuster article
by a very knowledgeable individual, Eric Jon Phelps. There is no
question that he is not after fame for his revealing of this brutal
and insidiously sinister Order that works in cowardice behind the
scenes. He is putting his life in great danger, and but for the
protection of Jah, he is a dead man.
In publishing it, I will add a number of notes to it. Phelps has great knowledge in this area of the Black Pope and the Jesuits. He may be the foremost expert on the subject in our day. However, this does not make him an expert in other fields, and he says things that are wrong because he is lacking some information. We all need each other, in balance, to see things as they should be seen. That is why I will add some notes to this interview. It IS a powerhouse, and how much balance he has brought to me through that which he exposes!!! People, I full well realize how extensive this study is, and how difficult it will be to thoroughly digest it, along with the included and necessary for understanding links. Especially as busy as everyone is. Let me tell you something. This study IS compulsory if you expect to come into the Overcoming. Much blindness is on everyone who does not understand these matters, and that blindness is causing ground for GREAT DECEPTION that has enveloped the entire earth. If you are not one who is aware of what shall be revealed here in this study, I say as politely as I can, you are a VICTIM of THAT DECEPTION!!! I see this blindness on most of those who e-mail me. I am not picking on anyone with this statement. It is just the way it is folks, and a blindness of which we must ALL come out. This deception is making most of the people ONE WITH THE DEVOURER, and because it is deception, people do not realize what has happened to them. This has caused me to pray much for a way to destroy this blindness, and now I have it. This study is NOT an option for any Overcomer. IT IS A REQUIRED COURSE!!! And, it matters not how much of your time it requires. Being "too busy with the cares of this life" is exactly what our King warned against. The emphasis added in most cases are mine. |
4/15/00 RICK MARTIN So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of
the main players on the "conspiracy" playing field? You’ve
maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the
various elements of society who control our world from behind the
scenes. You’ve gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans)
or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling
the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations),
the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300
(the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite" families)—the
Rothschilds in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in
Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the
New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated,
other-dimensional "master deceivers" commonly known as
Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts. While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger
Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing
Link in this entire structure. And I don’t mean a little side issue;
I mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from general public
view, and for so long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy
theory" scholars probably have not put together much of the
information that is going to be presented here. To call the following outlay "controversial" and
"sensitive" is about as mild an understatement of the truth
of the matter as can be made! This missing link changes the entire
slant of the entire playing field! After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was
finally able to speak with Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon
Phelps on Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no other way to cover
Eric’s historic masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries,
than to just ask questions covering huge spans of time and major
historical events. It took us almost four hours to accomplish the
task, yet we could easily have gone on for another forty. We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the
importance of this work by presenting it in a too distilled fashion.
In fact, in order to share this material with at least some of the
pertinent backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly
after the interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published
book which will help you in understanding certain aspects of this
magnificently important and broad-sweeping story. The missing link is
surely a central link. Let’s call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection"
to the unfolding New World Order agenda. You make up your own mind
just how absolutely central, yet well hidden, has been this link!
There’s a good reason the secret Vatican library is so extensive and
yet remains so intact from outside intrusion, despite the many others
who would like to possess such a collection of information detailing
much "censored" data about our true, otherworldly cultural
heritage. When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can’t
help but reflect back on the purposely "adjusted" and
watered down and boring moments in high school history class.
Meanwhile, the true history of what has gone on is dynamic and
full of calculated intrigue. In this business, I’ve heard and read a lot of things. But when I
had to pick my jaw up off the floor during the reading of certain
historical portions in Eric’s book—well, let me just say that
Truth certainly is stranger, and far more interesting, than the many
fictions we’ve been led to believe are historical fact. And yet The
Truth does fit together like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to
achieve such general attention—considering how well controlled and
censored is the publishing business. Thus is the reason for our
lengthy presentation of this most astonishing and critically important
material here in The SPECTRUM. We are in a time of Truth being revealed from all directions.
And there is probably no more fundamental, mind-rattling, and previous
notions-shattering example of that than what is being presented here.
The interview is directly followed by a number of pertinent excerpts
from Eric’s eye-opening book—which will be available July 1. [Editor’s note: It should be noted up-front that the
information presented below is the studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps.
We here at The SPECTRUM find much about his presentation of his
historical research which meshes with and expands upon Truth which has
been presented by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And
that is good; Truth is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh. However, for the peace of mind of our unique readership—which
typically has cultivated a more aware spiritual perspective than the
general public—we do not want to give the impression that we agree
with (or wish to promote) some collateral aspects of Eric’s
presentation having to do with his personal "religious"
convictions. The focus of those convictions follows a much more
biblically conventional (literal) path—in stark contrast to the
unconventional, questioning, wide-angle vision of his historical
material. Generally such opinions are simply allowed to stand on their
own—for you to sort and interpret as you see fit—rather than being
singled-out to be addressed editorially. However, in this case, the
practical side of Eric’s stated religious convictions include the
condoning of some degree of violence (or violent protest) and use of
armaments. And such convictions are very much the opposite of our
philosophical position—for many reasons, not the least of which is
the obvious Adversarial bait-and-entrapment which would result from
choosing what we would consider to be low-frequency responses to
schoolroom Earth’s current challenges. Yet, if the perceptive reader penetrates "between the
lines" thoughtfully, there is glimpsed a recurring commendable
spiritual message in Eric’s commentary—of "Have the courage
to speak The Truth" and "God helps those who help
themselves"—which we certainly DO agree with wholeheartedly and
have long supported enthusiastically. We are in the time of the Great Awakening on this planet.
The Light of Truth, intensifying with each passing moment, is nudging
many to step forward and share what they know. Will such ones follow
that nudge or continue to hide in fear? The answer to that question is
perhaps the most important aspect of schoolroom Earth’s relentless
testing at this critical time. One last-minute footnote before beginning this interview: The
Arts & Entertainment (A&E) cable television channel just
started to air—on Easter Sunday evening!—a new two-hour
documentary called: The Vatican Revealed. Tape it so you can
study it carefully; within the lines of dialog and some of those
people chosen for commentaries are many, many clues to the true power
of the Vatican over world affairs. It would, of course, be much more
revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER having read and digested
the following.] Martin: Before we begin, let me say a few words. The topic
of your book is so comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of
global control by the Jesuits, dating back to 1540. I would like to
begin our conversation with a very important point of clarification so
that our readers have something to hold onto while reading the
historical narrative we are about to present. Let me also add that
your book is one of the most compelling, dynamic, genuinely
educational historical documents I have ever read. I want to tell you,
I am impressed! You, literally, link every major global conflict and political
assassination to the hands of the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many
other groups you mention, have been the unwitting pawns in this Jesuit
Agenda. Today, the present. I’m going to start here, and then we’re
going to go way back in time and work our way up. But, I want to start
HERE because it will give a foundation for going back in time. Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called
"Black Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil
activities, not to race or color] who gives the orders to the
actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens? Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964.
Then Pedro Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I
believe, the present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See
photo nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolvenhoof. Martin: Let’s discuss this position of "General"
and, in addition, who is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does
he serve? What are his origins? Where does he hail from? Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality
is Dutch. Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he? Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the
Jesuits, called the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in
Rome at, what I just called, the Jesuit headquarters. Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican? Phelps: It’s not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in
the same general area. It’s headquarters of the Knights of Malta. Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper? Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is. Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is
the ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus? Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit
Generals, they are sorcerers. They
are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer.
They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer. Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a
top Jesuit at the time in the late ’60s—he was invited to a
"Black Mass" in Spain where there were quite a few top
Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black Mass".
Well, when you’re involved in a "Black Mass", you’re
involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black capes
and so on. Martin: I’m fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because
nobody in the world knows who this person is. I’ve never heard the
name. Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture
and his top Jesuits—just a second and I’ll get the book. The name
of the book is called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography, by Jean
Lacoutre, and that is available, usually, in the bookstores. It was
published in 1995. Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist.
On the last page of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page
343, you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach. He’s the Jesuit General, and he
looks like just a very evil individual. There’s a Black man, who’s
a high Jesuit, he’s a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan
General staff. One of the General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s
List. There are six White men, and one Black man. And that’s his
General staff. Martin: What is the process of choosing a successor General? Phelps: The High Jesuits elect him, and he’s elected for
life—unless he becomes a "heretic". Martin: And the so-called "High Jesuits" represent
what group? Phelps: I would say that they’re the
"professed", the high 4th Degree. When a Jesuit is
professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he is under the
"Bloody Oath" that I have in my book. Martin: Do we have permission to reprint that Oath in
our paper? Phelps: Of course, absolutely. Martin: One of my questions has to do with the Oath
and it’s similarity to the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of
Zion, and I wrote that question before I got back to the Protocols
portion of your book. Phelps: The Jesuits obviously wrote the Protocols
because they have carried out every protocol in that little
handbook. They have carried everything out. And, Alberto Rivera
says—and he was a Jesuit—he was greatly maligned, not helped at
all by the Apostate, Protestants, and Baptists in this country; he was
helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick. Jack Chick published his story in six
volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III, IV, V, & VI. Alberto Rivera says that it was Jews
aligned with the Pope who published the Protocols.
Well, I tend to feel that it was just the Jesuits themselves because
they, and they alone, were the ones who were able to bring this to
pass.
They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind
professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight
of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All
your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of
Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and
sports, while they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was
one of the things in the Protocols—that they would create
"amusements". Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree Freemason—Disneyworld,
Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey,
with Hersey
Park. They create all of these amusements and games and pastimes
to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they’re busy
overthrowing the Protestant form of government. Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this? Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by
the Mafia. But all the high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and
they are ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York,
which is Cardinal O’Connor—because the Commission, the Mafia
Commission resides in New York. Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was
intimate, personal friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe
Kennedy. And that has not changed. So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia
Dons—the Gambinos, the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they
control Hollywood, not the Jews. It’s only Jews who are front-men
who are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for the
Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen
Spector was Spelly’s [Cardinal Spellman’s] Jew in the
assassination [of President Kennedy], and he would never say a
word about it. Martin: Now, as we go through here, if there’s anything
that you don’t want me to print, please let me know because,
literally, I’m going to print everything we say in this
conversation. Phelps: That’s fine, that’s fine with me because it
needs to be said. Martin: Let’s get back to Count Hans Kolvenbach. I want to
shine the spotlight on this guy for just a little bit here. Let’s
talk about him. What does he do? Who is he? Let’s talk about his
position as "General". How do they exercise this control
over the Pope? Does the Pope know he’s a pawn? Phelps: Ok, one question at a time. So, which question do
you want me to deal with? Martin: Let’s just shine the light right on the Count. Phelps: The Jesuit General, ok. Martin: Let’s start there, and you tell me everything you
want to tell me about that position. Phelps: The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and
total dictator and autocrat of the Order. When he speaks, his
provincials move. The provincials are his major subordinates. There
are around 83 provincials right now. As I understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83
regions. Ok? For each region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are
10 provincials in the United States. There is one for Central America.
There is one for Ireland. They’ve divided up the world into these
provinces. So it’s old Babylonian provincial government, centered in
Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit General himself; so it’s strictly a
Roman form of government where all the states or provinces are
subordinate to this worldwide sovereign.
The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the
Order. He meets with his provincials. When they decide to start a war
or an agitation, he gets the information from the provincial of that
country, how best to go about this, the demeanor of the people, and
then he uses legitimate grievances to foam an agitation—like the
1964 Civil Rights Movement. That was ALL a Jesuit agitation,
completely, because the end result was more consolidation of power in
Washington with the 1964 Civil Rights Act that was written by [the
longtime President of the University of Notre Dame, the Reverend]
Theodore Hesburgh. The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials. And the
provincials then, of course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are
many Jesuits who are not "professed", so many of the lower
Jesuits have no idea what’s going on at the top. They have no
concept of the power of their Order. It’s just like Freemasonry. The lower Freemasons have no idea
that the High Shriner Freemasons are working for the Jesuit General.
They think that they’re just doing works and being good people. But
the bottom line is that the high-level Freemasons are subject, also,
to the Jesuit General because the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the
Great, wrote the High Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish
Rite Freemasonry when Fredrick protected them when they were
suppressed by the Pope in 1773. So, you have the alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most
powerful Freemason they had in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during
their suppression. That is an irrefutable conclusion. And then, when
you see the Napoleonic Wars, the French Revolution and the Napoleonic
Wars carried out by Freemasonry, everything Napoleon did, and the
Jacobins, whatever they did, completely benefited the Jesuit Order. It’s to this end that Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of
Monte Cristo. The Count is the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ.
The Count of the Mount of Christ. Alexander Dumas was talking about
the Jesuit General getting vengeance when the Jesuits were suppressed,
and many of them were consigned to an island, three hours sailing,
West, off the coast of Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally
regained their power, they punished all of the monarchs of Europe who
had suppressed them, drove them from their thrones, including the
Knights of Malta from Malta, using Napoleon. And Alexander Dumas, who fought for the Italian
patriots in 1848, to free Rome from the temporal power of the Pope,
wrote many books and one of the books was to expose this, and that was
The Count Of Monte Cristo. So, when you read that book, bear in mind that it’s really a
satire on the Jesuit Order regaining their power in France. The Count
of Monte Cristo has an intelligence apparatus that can’t be beat.
Well, that’s the Jesuit Order. But the Count doesn’t get what he really ought to have, or his
last wish, and that’s the love of woman. He gains back all of his
political power; he gains back everything he lost; but he doesn’t
have the love of a woman. And THAT is the Jesuit Order. They have no
women. They have no love of a woman. Because to have a wife, to have a
woman, means you have an allegiance to your wife and family, and you
cannot obey the General. That’s why they will NEVER be married, and
that’s one of the great KEYS to their success. They can betray a nation and walk away. They can betray all the
Irish Catholics getting on the Titanic, and walk away. They can
betray us in Vietnam and walk away. They can betray us every time we
go to the hospital and get radiated and cut and drugged, and walk
away, because it’s "for the greater glory of God"—Ad
Majorem Dei Gloriam: the greater glory of the god who sits in Rome. Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits? Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with
the Pope of their making, from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in
Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal. Martin: And why is Solomon’s Temple rebuilt so important? Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When
Ignatius Loyola first started the Order, one of the first things he
did was, he wanted to go to Jerusalem and set up the Jesuit
headquarters there. So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed,
came back, went to school, started his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it
might be a good idea to just review a little bit about Ignatius
Loyola. Martin: Yes. Phelps: Ok, Ignatius Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he
was wounded at a battle between the French and the Spanish, and his
leg was shattered. Well, the French General, because Loyola was very
brave in conflict, ordered his own doctors to attend Loyola. So they
set the leg and sent him back to his home—which, of course, he was
royalty to the Counsel of Loyola in Spain, in the area of the Basques. Loyola, through his series of desiring to regain his leg—it had
healed improperly, so he made a rack where he would stretch the leg,
with severe, horrible, awful pain—and trying to stretch this leg to
get it back to normal shape, he endured awful, terrible pain. He had
it rebroken, again, a couple of times and it still did not heal
properly, so he had a perpetual limp. He could no longer be the
courtier among women, and as a result, he went into this depression,
and he then had this vision of the saints, etc., etc., and he wrote
his spiritual exercises. I will stop at the spiritual exercises, just for a minute, but
I’ll take up from there. Loyola then wanted to form an army, but
when this happened with his spiritual exercises, those spiritual
exercises would be basic training for all of his Jesuits. That’s
what they will ALL go through. That’s what every Jesuit goes through
today. One of the maxims of the spiritual exercises is that if my superior
says "black is white and white is black", then that’s the
way it is. That is in his spiritual exercises. That is what is quoted
in JFK, when Kevin Costner is telling his people: "Hey,
people, we’ve got to start thinking like the CIA. Black is white and
white is black." That was a Jesuit giveaway that the Jesuits
produced that movie, because they’re quoting Ignatius Loyola in that
movie from his spiritual exercises. So, Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he
set his mind to regain back what the Papacy had lost to the
Reformation. And so, he went to the Pope, and the Pope in 1540 then
created the Jesuit Order. But this man is a soldier, he’s a lawyer,
and he put together a legion of soldiers and warriors to get back what
Rome had lost, as well as institute a World Government for the Pope,
from Jerusalem. This was in 1540. He started the Order in 1536. He was arrested by the Inquisition,
and he was released, and he went to the Pope; he threw himself at the
feet of the Pope. He would be completely at his service. The Pope
chartered him, and that Pope was Pius III. The Pope chartered them,
created the Jesuit Order; now he has Papal protection, and they began
their awful history of deeds of blood. And war after war after war
after war, they’re all attributed to the Jesuit Order in some way.
Catholic nobles, with lots of money, donated castles and schools and
money to the Jesuit Order. Virtually everything they own has been given to them or stolen by
them. Of course, they stole all of the fortunes of the Jews in World
War II. They stole all their gold, all their assets and everything,
whenever they went into a country. What’s just been released is
NOTHING compared to what they’ve taken. In Edmond Paris’s book, printed by Ozark Publications, called The
Vatican Against Europe, it gets into great detail of what they
did. It calls it—the last 30 years of war is all attributable to the
Jesuits, their massacres of the Serbs and Jews, etc. But Edmond Paris
did not understand that the Jesuit General—and this is one of the
most important points I want to make about Von Kolvenbach—the
Jesuit General is in complete control of the international
intelligence community: that’s the CIA, the FBI, the KGB, the
Israeli Mossad, the German BND, the British SIS. The Jesuit General is
in COMPLETE CONTROL of the entire intelligence apparatus—FBI, every
bureaucratic agency in this country, all of it; he is in complete
control of it. So, whenever he wants to find something out about an individual,
they put in the Social Security number, and everything from all of the
intelligence apparatus kicks-in and he and his provincials can review
everything about that man. Credit cards, you name it, everything
that’s attached to Rome’s social security number, which FDR
put upon us in 1933 with the help of Spellman; at the time, I believe
he was Archbishop, or maybe it was Cardinal Hayes—but Rome was
behind FDR in putting him in office. The couple of things that he did was implement social insecurity,
the income tax, and recognizing Joseph Stalin’s bloody Jesuit
USSR government. So, with the giving of us the Social Security
number, that is Rome’s number—that’s why I refuse to use
it—and that’s why they want everybody using it for everything:
driver’s license, tax return, credit card, everything you do, that
number is you and that number is Rome’s number. Martin: Let me just back-up here for a minute. What comes to
mind is Louis Freeh, head of the FBI. Phelps: Roman Catholic, good altar boy. Probably a Knight of
Columbus; I can’t prove it. But anybody with that kind of power has
got to be a Knight of Columbus. And the Knights of Columbus implement Jesuit politics. And Louis
Freeh was the one behind the Waco atrocity and the Oklahoma City
bombing atrocity. And his top sniper was a Japanese Roman Catholic
named Lon Horiuchi. So, it’s Roman Catholics in control, Knights in control of the
FBI, who carried out all of this killing. And those two men, Louis
Freeh and Lon Horiuchi are personally accountable to Cardinal
O’Connor of New York. And Cardinal O’Connor of New
York is the most powerful Cardinal in the country. He is the military
vicar. And that’s why Bush kissed his fanny for going to Bob
Jones, because Cardinal O’Connor is the King of
the American Empire. And he rules his Empire from that Palace, St.
Patrick’s Cathedral, "the little Vatican". Martin: And is he in contact, do you think, with Kolvenbach? Phelps: Of course. O’Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but
the Jesuits are like the SS of the Catholic Church. They maintain
order. And the ones closest to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of
Fordham University. Now, one of them—the head of Fordham University,
I believe he is an Irishman, is also a member of the CFR [Council
on Foreign Relations]. And I have that right here in the Annual
Report of the CFR of 1993. Those Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance
and rule over the Cardinal in New York. And, of course, the powerful
Jesuits of Fordham include Avery Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of
the writers of the book on the Second Vatican Council. Martin: Let’s back-up now, let’s go back. What’s the
Council of Trent? Phelps: The Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the
Protestant Reformation. Remember—the Protestant Reformation brought
us all of the political liberty that we know of today. There’s no
such thing as national sovereignty without the Reformation. There’s
no such thing as private rights without the Reformation. There’s no
such thing as the Law of Nations, as we know of it today, of
Montesquieu and the others, without the Reformation. So, when the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by
grace through faith alone, and that there was no need for the
priesthood to go to Heaven—that all we need is salvation in Christ,
and Romans 1:17: the righteous shall live by faith. When the
Reformation came, it completely stripped Rome of its spiritual power.
The priests were no longer wanted because the people were getting the
word of God in a Bible, specifically in Holland, England, and
Germany. And so, with these great revivals breaking forth and the
Reformation happening, nations were breaking away from the power of
the Pope. The Holy Roman Empire was breaking up. Charles V, the
Emperor, resigned and became a monk and a gardener. So, the Lord was
moving mightily in breaking the power of the Holy Roman Empire,
started by Charlemagne and the Pope. Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of
money. The nations were not paying "Peter’s pence"
anymore, which today we call "foreign aid" in this country.
And so the Pope was very upset about his. What’s he going to do? These nations are breaking away from us;
they’re not under our temporal or spiritual power; and it’s very
important to remember that the Pope claims two powers—spiritual and
temporal—and with the breaking of his spiritual power, he then lost
his temporal power. In other words, he no longer had the ability to
rule the people through the king of the country, because the king was
breaking away, like Henry VIII. So, Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the
Church of England; he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was
happening in England, in Germany, in Holland, and other places. As a result of this, the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his
demonisms, his "spiritual exercises" and—because Loyola
had been a member of the Spanish Alumbrados, which is
what we call the Illuminati today, and he used the Jesuit Order to
attempt to regain back what had been taken by the Reformation—what
the Lord had done through Luther, Calvin, and Knox. And, by the way,
Luther, Calvin, and Knox—none of those men died violent deaths. They
all lived to older age and died peacefully, amidst the power of the
Jesuit machinations. The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions
accurse and condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns
anybody who does not believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the
host [holy communion bread], and that his literal blood is in
the wine. That’s called transubstantiation. Anybody who does not
believe that is an accursed anathema. Anybody who believes that their
salvation is outside the Catholic Church is accursed anathema. Anybody
who believes in justification by grace through faith—anathema,
accursed. Anybody who believes that the Pope is not the vicar of
Christ—accursed, anathema. You see, all of these doctrines were
being put forth as a result of reading the Bible, which
produced the Reformation, and so the Jesuits accursed everything that
the Reformers were preaching. This is all in Law called the Council of
Trent. In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session,
the Jesuits condemn freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and
freedom of conscience. So, no man has the right to choose his own
religion; no man has the right to publish what he feels is the truth;
and no man has the right to freedom of conscience. Those rights were secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in
the First Amendment. The man who wrote the First Amendment
was James Madison, who was a Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by
that Baptist/Calvinist in Virginia, Doc. John Leland: "If you
don’t secure all those rights, Virginia will not ratify the Constitution."
Virginia was a Baptist/Calvinist state. So, we have a warfare between the Council of Trent and the
doctrines of the Reformation, particularly as outlined by John Calvin
in his Institutes Of The Christian Religion. Calvin [1536]
wrote the Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished
it when he was 27, and he dedicated it to the King of France. And
because the Jesuits so hated him, he was driven from France and he
resided in Geneva to the day of his death, when he became Governor of
Geneva. It’s Calvin and his Institutes Of The Christian Religion
vs. Loyola and his Council of Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two
major documents. Martin: Council of Trent was what year? Phelps: From 1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a
little town in Italy. So, it was a Council that took place in the town
of Trent, Italy. The Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith that was
finished in 1648, after the 30 Years War, is another extension of
Calvin’s Institutes, and is what the Church of Scotland and
the Covenanters went by when they resisted the powers of
Rome and England. That document is a major document, and it’s not
the new Westminster Confession, it’s the old one of 1648,
where they called the Pope the man of sin, that Roman Anti-Christ, and
they also denounced anti-Christian tyranny. And that it is their duty, to use what they call "the sword of
the spirit", which is the Word of God, which we read in Ephesians,
Chapter 6, and "the sword of just defense"—the gun,
the sword. So, us Calvinists believe that there is a time for peace and a time
for war, and we do not refuse to go to the battlefield when it’s
necessary. It was the Calvinists who gave us our political liberty in
England with Cromwell. He was a Calvinist and an independent Baptist.
It was Calvinists in Holland who gave the Dutch their political
liberty, with William of Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice,
and then later, in our great country, when it was Washington, the
Freemason who did not go into that Masonic Lodge the last 30 years of
his life—in his own words—who was a Baptist and a Calvinist. He
was baptized in the First Baptist Church of New York by one of his
captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by Calvinists. That’s why they didn’t surrender at Valley Forge; that’s why,
when they were naked, when they went through the snow, barefoot, they
endured that because they were Bible-believing Calvinists and
they refused to submit to the tyranny of King George, who was
controlled by the Jesuits. And that is the soul of our country. If we lose that soul, we’ve
lost everything. And those very same Baptists, in the Second
Amendment, secured their right to bear arms, because they secured
the right, the "sword of just defense". And the "sword
of the spirit" is contained in the First Amendment, the
right to have the Bible never taken from them. The two swords
of Calvinism are secured in the First and Second Amendments.
Without those first two Amendments, all the others are nothing. Martin: Well, I got to my question #2. So, let’s go to #3
of the seventy. (laughter) How does Shriner Freemason President Harry Truman’s signing into
law of the Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit
Agenda? Phelps: First of all, Harry Truman, who the Japanese called
"Dirty Harry"—when they heard the movie Dirty Harry
came out, they thought it was a movie about Harry Truman, according to
my Japanese pastor friend, Daniel Fuji, who has passed away. Harry Truman was put in office by the Jesuits, the Pensergast
Democratic machine in Missouri. Harry Truman takes over
after FDR’s murder, because he was murdered in the home of Bernard
Baruch. When he did that, he then finished up the war with the hoax
called the dropping of the nuclear bombs, to purposely create this
greater hoax called the Cold War, that would enable the Vatican to
knock over country after country after country, and replace the
leaders with dictators, subordinate to the Pope. That was the purpose
of the Cold War. And so, when Harry Truman in 1950 signed into law the Emergency War
Powers Act, the Cold War was in full force. They were building bomb
shelters, etc. So the nation was in kind of a frenzy. When he signed this into law, it put the whole country under
military or martial law, and that’s when the flags in every
courtroom, state and federal, began to be changed. And every state
flag and every U.S. flag is now trimmed in gold fringe.
And whenever you see a flag trimmed in gold fringe, that means that it
is the flag of the Commander-in-Chief. Now, if it’s the state flag,
it means that’s the flag of the governor, as Commander-in-Chief. And
if it’s the federal flag, or the national flag, more correctly,
it’s the flag of the Commander-in-Chief in Washington. So, all your courts are nothing more than courts of military
rule. They all proceed with summary procedures. The jury has
no power of jury nullification. And they are simply enforcing the laws
of the Empire, which I call 14th Amendment America, which is a
military-style, King of England-style country. The courts are nothing
more than courts of the king’s bench, as you can see in Blackstone’s
Commentaries. And the banks, as you walk into every bank, they all have a
flag trimmed in gold fringe. The bank is what England would
call, in Blackstone’s day, the king’s bank. So, we have the
king’s bank, and we have the king’s bench. And it’s run
according to military rule, according to Berkheimer’s great work
Military Rule And Martial Law, published in 1914. When Harry Truman did this, there was a consummation of a great
plan to put us under the Emergency War Powers Act and, actually, a war
rule. "Daylight savings time" is what was called "war
time". This country only went to daylight savings time during
World War II, and they called it, at that time, war time. So,
nothing’s changed. We’ve never gone back to not turning back our
clocks. We’re still on war time. The income tax is a war tax. It was
called a victory tax in 1942. So, people are paying a war tax, they’re under war time,
they’re under an emergency war powers act, and the courts are war
courts. Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John
Kennedy, which could take this entire interview, you say that
the assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General, executed by Pope
Paul VI, and carried out by the "American Pope", Francis
Cardinal Spellman—who, in turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner
Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and
CIA, to carry out the order from Rome. Would you explain why you
believe your particular theory on the assassination to be an accurate
representation of the facts? Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are
properly outlined [in his book], and proven through two
centuries of showing how it’s all been put together. Now, as to why,
I will be conservative and stick with Fletcher Prouty’s reasons,
that he outlined in his JFK and also his other book called The
Secret Team. The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the
Vietnam War, and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two
questions: Did Rome want the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the
CIA? The answer is yes on both counts. We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly’s
War"—Cardinal Spellman’s war. He went over to the warfront
many times and he called the American soldiers the "soldiers of
Christ". The man who was the Commander of the American forces was
a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly a Knight of Columbus, I don’t
know, but he was General William Westmoreland. So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that
war was prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was
Cardinal Spellman’s boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines
Johnson was a 33rd-degree Freemason. He was also part of the
assassination, with J. Edgar Hoover, another 33rd-degree Freemason. And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman’s death at St. Patrick’s
Cathedral, and the picture can be seen in Cooney’s work The
American Pope. So, Johnson was completely at the beck and call of
Cardinal Spellman through Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-in-control of the
FBI. According to Curt Gentry, in his Hoover: The Man And The
Secrets, DeLoach had a phone at his bedside direct
to Johnson, and Johnson could call him anytime. DeLoach was a Knight
of Malta, subject to Spellman. Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by
the Jesuits of Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam
War? The people of Vietnam, the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They
would not convert to Catholicism. They didn’t need Rome. There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it
had been decided that about a million or so Buddhists would have to be
"purged". They would later continue this purge of Cambodia,
with Pol Pot, and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging of
Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they
purged the Buddhists of China with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was
completely controlled by the Jesuits. So, they wanted the Vietnam War. The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The
Vatican controls all of the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the
opium, all of the cocaine, everything going around in Columbia. Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty
with the Pope. Hitler had a concordat. Mussolini had a
concordat. Franco had a concordat. They want to
set up a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally
recognizing the sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest
traitor we ever had was Ronald Reagan. So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think
that drugs running out of Columbia, with a country that has a
concordat with Rome, is not controlled by Rome? If Rome didn’t want
the drug trade out of Columbia, they’d end the concordat. The whole
drug trade is run by high Mafia families out of the country of
Columbia, subject to the Jesuit General. And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries
ago, out of China. They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie
Shogun is but a slight scratching of the surface of the Jesuit
"black ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls
and gold and opals and everything they could pull out of the East,
including opium. The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive
drug-trade that would inundate every American city with drugs, being
brought in by the CIA with their Air America, and then distributed by
the Trafficante family throughout the United
States—Santos Trafficante out of Miami. So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug
trade. We have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the
assassination of Kennedy. The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist
Janssens] wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he was going
to end the Vietnam War. The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA,
because the CIA had betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by
not giving the cover to the Cuban patriots to retake Cuba from that
Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—he was a
bastard, his father was a Nazi—Fidel Castro. Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which
sacrificed all the patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so
Castro had no real opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the
CIA and the KGB at the top, working together with Angleton controlling
it, in the Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that
revolution, and then betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of
the Soviet army and KGB, which infuriated certain top CIA officials. It’s the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice
the men who truly want to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge
Bundy stopped the air cover of the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended
that resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power. And, of
course, it was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained
him. So now Kennedy looks bad. He’s got egg all over his face. What
does he want to do? He signs a Memorandum, according to Fletcher
Prouty, and takes all of the power away from the CIA, and gives it to
the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of
the CIA was "Wild" Bill Donovan, an Irish
Roman Catholic, who are the most fanatical, and his brother was a
Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the CIA was founded by this high Roman
Catholic, the first head, to solidify the Catholic or the Vatican
control of it. I’m not against the Catholic people; I’m against Rome’s
hierarchy. The American Catholic people know NOTHING of what’s going
on. And if they did, there would be a march on St. Patrick’s
tomorrow morning. So, as I’m against the hierarchy, I’m showing
that Kennedy was against the Vietnam War, and he was going to do away
with the CIA. Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers
into the CIA because the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in
Europe. When the Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed
with the SS and purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That’s why
Stalin deliberately killed 40,000 of his best officers. That’s why
he kicked out his best generals, purged them, because he wanted to
make sure that the Red Army would lose with the advance of the German
army, because following that would come the SS and purge Russia of the
Jews that Stalin so hated. And by the way, justice is often poetic
because Stalin’s daughter married a Jew.
Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and
the intelligence arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were
throughout. Casey was a Knight of Malta. Angleton was a Knight of
Malta. The Knights were through and through. Angleton manned the
"Vatican desk", and that is a desk within the CIA that has a
direct link to the Vatican. So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community".
That was the end of him. Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end
the Vietnam War, and also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal
Reserve Bank by printing United States Notes, they got rid of him.
They killed our only Roman Catholic president. And it’s another piece of poetic justice that a Roman
Catholic—not Protestants, like Harry Truman, FDR, and
others—it’s a Roman Catholic who truly sought to resist the
temporal power of the Pope in this country. And in many ways, even
though Kennedy was, in fact, a socialist and communist, at least he
resisted the temporal power of the Pope. And for that we should be
thankful and remember his name. But what have they done to his name? They’ve slammed it. They
drag it into the dirt. Every time you see it on TV, they parade before
you his womanizing, which I don’t deny, but my goodness, can’t we
give him some credit where credit is due? That’s why they got rid of
John F. Kennedy. And then, of course, as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone,
the head of the CIA, the following day goes to the White House and
they reverse Kennedy’s Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and
make a full-scale, carte blanche war. The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a
CIA war. And there they tried all of their new technology, their
anti-gravity machines, their men who they’re trying to make like the
"million-dollar man". They tried out all their new
technology in Vietnam. It was a great experimental theater, and
Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and he knew that the American people
had no idea what was going down, and he still tried to resist it,
against his father’s warnings. Because his father was the most
powerful Knight of Malta in the Empire. Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior? Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication,
John F. Kennedy, Jr. wanted to find his father’s real killers, and
he had the power to publish the conclusion. So, they took him out
right away. They would not allow that to happen. Martin: Why haven’t you been taken out? Phelps: Because I am immortal—until the Lord is done with
me. I am a Calvinist and a Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty
of God. And as long as we are operating in His Will, they cannot touch
us, regardless of their power. Martin: Which is why we’re having this conversation. Phelps: Which is why we’re having the conversation.
Don’t think for one moment they’re not tapping this phone. They
know this. The issue is here. We’re talking about a providential,
sovereign God who wishes to move, using second causes, men, just as
the Devil does. The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it’s
one group of men vs. another group of men, and one path leads
to evil, and the true, almighty God leads to goodness.
The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe
God anymore. Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It’s just a
handful of us who say: "Well, we’re going to do His Will;
we’re going to trust Him in His Power." And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery
furnace of Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We’re
going to tell the truth! Martin: Let’s see here. I can throw away a lot of these
questions. So much of it seems, in a way, irrelevant to our current
times because there’s so much going on now. But, good grief! I was
just stunned to read in your book of all the historical things that
have happened as a result of these evil people. You dedicated the book
to four Roman Catholics who, I’m sure, no one has ever heard of:
Charles Chiniquy, Jeremiah Crowley, Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto
Rivera. Why them? Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they
left the priesthood and told the truth about what was really
happening. And all four of them, except one, I think Emmett
McLaughlin, paid with their life. Chiniquy was the great exposer of
the Jesuit assassination of President Lincoln, when he wrote his
masterpiece Fifty Years In The Church Of Rome in 1886. He
proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits, and that it was
covered-up by our government at the time. Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here
and, seeing the corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was
so corrupt, he left it and exposed it. And, of course, he later came
to Christ and became a Bible-believer, which they would call a
Protestant. Protestants today don’t believe the Bible.
Protestantism of today is an empty shell, it’s nothing. But, back
then, in 1912, they believed the Bible. Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he
exposed, that helped me with this, was that he warned that the
Jesuits, with their Knights of Columbus—which, he says, the Knights
of Columbus, named after Columbus, who he tells us was a Spanish Jew
and a pirate and a deflowerer of young girls—that Columbus was no
Christian. He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the
purpose of the Knights of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics,
and part of those politics was to restore the temporal power of the
Pope because, you remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870 and they
wanted to get it back. And they got it back with Mussolini in
1929. Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and
Teddy Roosevelt were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of
New York. And he said they’re going to use our military to restore
the Pope’s temporal power around the world. And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign
policy. And the Council of Trent is the American foreign policy of
today. That’s what’s going on in Serbia and Bosnia. It’s the
Council of Trent—the Jesuits using the American Air Force to bomb
those orthodox people to smithereens. But, that was Crowley’s great
contribution. Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The
People’s Padre; he wrote Crime And Immorality In The
Catholic Church, showing that Catholic nations are more lawless
and more criminal than Protestant nations, and he proved it with
statistics from the jails. Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The
Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, where he, again, shows that
Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits. So, Emmett McLaughlin came
out of the Catholic Church. To my knowledge, he never was born again.
He never was saved, but he did tell the truth. He married a nun, and
lived a virtuous and honorable life after he left. The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated
by the Vatican because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in
the late ’60s, about 1969, exposed the power of Rome in the
ecumenical movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that
Rome controlled Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our
government—Ronald Reagan. Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk,
indicating that this country will ultimately have a concordat. So,
Alberto Rivera converted to Christ, wonderfully, and he started a
ministry called The Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los
Angeles. They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up
between his teeth, trying to give him an infection in the brain. When
he passed out, about a year or so later, they couldn’t figure it
out. Everybody was praying for him. And this was discovered when he
went to another dentist. He had it removed. He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to
kill the man, and finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a
hospital, about three years ago. But these four wonderful, great,
Catholic priests did their best to expose the power of Rome and its
attempts to destroy our sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing
nation. And so, to them, I dedicate it. Martin: What compelled you to write this book? What started
it for you? Phelps: I was always taught to be a patriot, a patriot first
and foremost—America first, and everybody else second. Later, when I
came to know the Lord, at 17, I realized the Bible taught the
same thing—that the Lord had instituted nations. The Lord never
instituted world governments; that’s always the result of the
Devil’s working. So, being a patriot and a nationalist—believing in national
sovereignty—I was saved at 17, went into the Air Force, was
garrisoned in a nuclear weapons area for three years in Germany, came
back and started to go to Bible college. When I went to Bible college, the issue of the
King James came up, as far as it being an archaic version. And
that’s what I used and I had never given it a thought. Well, some
were using NIV, some NASB, and I thought: "Well, maybe it’s
just a modern version of what I have here." And I thought:
"Well, if they want to use that, that’s fine, but I’ll use
the King James." I found that the underlying Greek text for the King James,
the Textus Receptus, was the Greek text of the Reformation. It
represents 95% of the existing manuscripts that we have today. The
Greek text that underlies all these other versions—there’s a
Westcott and Hort Greek text, which I then discovered was really a
conspiracy to adulterate the Textus Receptus in England, led by
Brooke Foss Westcott and Anthony Hort, who were Maryolitors,
Mary-worshippers. Later, I found out that they had invited Cardinal Newman to sit in
on the revision committee. Well, Cardinal Newman was a traitor to the
Anglican Church, with his Track 90, which blew-off the Anglican Church.
He then left England and he was then a Cardinal by Pius IX. So, here we have Cardinal Newman, and E. B. Pusey, had been invited
to sit on this revision committee, the end result being a Greek text
that had been produced that was pro-Jerome’s Latin Vulgate.
Jerome’s Latin Vulgate is the basis for the Jesuit’s Reheims-Douay
text, that was put out in 1582, that was attempting to rival William
Tyndale’s English text, which later became the King James Version
of 1611. So now I see this awful Jesuit hand in my Bible college,
attempting to deprive me of the Word of God, the authorized version of
1611, in it’s present edition of 1769. Now I thought "Well,
here the Jesuits are, what else have they done?" And the next
thing I was led to was the Lincoln assassination. And I can remember
reading Burke McCarty’s The Suppressed Truth About The
Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, and weeping in the back room,
when I was in college. Martin: For me, one of the most compelling portions of your
book was the series of revelations about Lincoln. I was stunned by
that. Phelps: That’s what they did. Remember, Lincoln was not
going to go along with the 14th Amendment. He wanted those
Southern states to re-enter the Union on the same footing that they
had left, which would have left us with a federal Republic as
Washington had established it. This the Jesuits would not allow. It
would be converted into an Empire. The states would be subordinate
provinces to Washington. And the 14th Amendment would
accomplish this with the reversion of citizenship. And Lincoln was
re-elected, and he was ready to end this, and that’s why they
killed him. Kennedy was ready to implement his things; they would
not let him be re-elected. Martin: This is a total aside. Have you ever come across The
Jefferson Bible? Phelps: The Jefferson Bible—and maybe you know
this—is Matthew, Mark, and Luke. And Thomas Jefferson, being the
Deist, being the pagan that he was, cut out all the supernatural from
those three gospels. Jefferson was a Deist; he was involved with the
French Freemasons who were involved in the French Revolution, and he
was not here at the writing of our Protestant Constitution. So,
the Lord put him out of the picture. Jefferson was just used to help
with the Revolution—because the Lord does use the unGodly for good
things. But Jefferson copied much of the Declaration Of
Independence from the Mechlenburg Declaration, written by
Calvinistic Presbyterians of North Carolina, when they seceded, when
that county of Mechlenburg seceded from the Colonies. Martin: Never heard of it. Phelps: Yes, you’ll find it in Presbyterian writings. You
can find it from D. James Kennedy; he has a thing on it. And Jefferson
copied, at the end: "...and to this end we devote our lives, our
fortunes, and our sacred honor." That was copied directly from the Mechlenburg Declaration.
Jefferson was a plagiarist; he was a high Freemason; and he was out of
here at the time of the writing of our Constitution. And the
reason why the people of Virginia did elect him to office was because
he was a State’s Rights man. He wanted limited powers in Washington,
and that was a good thing. And when Jefferson was elected, he undid
everything the king-president John Adams did, with his Alien &
Sedition Laws, because John Adams wanted to be a king, and Jefferson
undid it, and Jefferson got two terms for that. Martin: I’m looking at some things that are a little
further back now. The Secreta Monita. What’s the significance
of that? Phelps: The Secret Instructions [excerpts at the end of
this interview] are the handbooks that are given to the professed
Jesuits, those under extreme oath. [The oath is presented in
full at the end of this interview.] And it tells them how to
conduct their plans, subjugating peoples and nations to the Jesuit
General, and thus, to the temporal power of the Pope. It tells how
they are to deceive. It shows how they are to swindle rich widows out
of their fortunes, like they did with Astor’s second wife who
survived the Titanic catastrophe. It shows their general approach on
how to do things. This particular book cannot be known, and if it’s ever published,
they will deny it’s existence. But when you see the works that the
Jesuits have done, it’s in complete agreement with the Secreta
Monita. There is a very interesting section in Edwin R. Sherwin’s book
The Engineer Core Of Hell, written in 1886 I believe—another
suppressed work. It’s usually in the archives of all the older
libraries back here. And he shows how this Secreta Monita was
discovered in South America by a Mason, and the Mason managed to
escape to a lodge after being shot. He turned the Secreta Monita
over to the lodge, and then these certain Freemasons saw the Secreta
Monita. There are certain low-level Freemasons who believe that
the Jesuit Order is their enemy, so that’s why it was taken to the
lodge and then published. But the high-level Masons, of course, work
with them. The Secreta Monita was discovered once that way. It
was published in Holland. Then, in 1857, reprinted by England. Martin: Pascal’s Provincial Letters had a
devastating impact on exposing the Jesuits. Why? Phelps: Blaise Pascal was a Huguenot, a French Calvinist. So
here we have another fearless man. He doesn’t fear death; he’s
going to tell the truth. So Blaise Pascal wrote a series of letters
that were written to and from provincials, and he wrote them in a
satirical manner, that of course excited that wonderful French mind.
The French, of course, came to the conclusion that this was absolutely
the truth, and then they moved to suppress the Jesuits again. But his Provincial
Letters are considered a classic. Blaise Pascal also wrote some
other great works, too. Martin: Pope Ganganelli-Clement XIV abolished the Order
entirely in 1773, and was murdered as a result. Phelps: Correct; he was poisoned. Martin: The Order was similarly abolished 39 times from
different kingdoms throughout Europe. It doesn’t take a genius to
figure out that something was terribly wrong with this group! Phelps: Right. Are all those people bigots? Are all those
people brainwashed bigots and fanatical Protestants who abolished the
Jesuit Order? You find the greatest resistance to the Jesuits in Catholic
countries, by Catholic monarchs. And that’s why the Roman Catholic
monarchs and nobility of today don’t dare resist them. The Kennedys
won’t touch them. The monarchs of Europe won’t touch them. The
Hapsburgs won’t touch them, because the Jesuits have vindicated
their power in the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars—well,
then they went to suppress the Jesuits again in Europe and they were,
for the most part, kicked-out of Europe in the 1800s. All the nations
of Europe banned them. Germany banned them in 1872. And so, World War
I and II, the second Thirty Years War, was pay-back for this. And ever
since then, nobody touches them. Pope Ganganelli abolished the Jesuits with a Papal Bull; the
Jesuits call it a "brief". It is not a brief; it is in the
Library of the Bulls, and it is called Dominic Ac Redemptor Nostor.
That is the name of a bull. And when he abolished them, he abolished
them forever—that they were not to talk about their abolition, that
they were not to teach. He confiscated all of their wealth and land
and property. For the most part, the Dominicans took it over, which is
why the Dominicans had their penis cut off during the French
Revolution. That’s what the Jacobins did to them. It was payback by
the Jesuits: "You don’t dare take our property from us, boy.
And you don’t dare take Inquisition from us." Jacobins killed
nearly every Dominican in France. Martin: Why was the assassination of William of Orange so
significant? Phelps: Williams of Orange was the father of religious
liberty. William of Orange is the man who gave the Jews the freedom to
come to Amsterdam. And the Jews called Amsterdam, "the new
Jerusalem". William of Orange was a Catholic to begin with.
Remember when he was in the forest, hunting with the king of France,
and the king of France lay bare to him their plans to destroy all the
Protestants in Holland, William kept silent. And that’s why he was
called "William the taciturn" or "William the
silent". So, he harbored all of this in his heart, and he went back to
Holland determined that he would deliver the Calvinists and the
Protestants from this annihilation. William went to Germany with his
German wife, and he, according to Motley in his The Dutch Republic,
raised an army of Germans and they did not succeed in liberating
Holland. And so, it was the Dutch themselves who joined William of
Orange in an attempt to liberate the country, which they ultimately
did as the "wild beggars of the sea". So, William was a great inspiration. He delivered flight from the
siege of the fanatical Roman Catholic Spanish, lead by the Jesuits,
when the Lord providentially delivered and sent a strong wind over the
dikes, and flooded the whole area, and flooded the Spanish soldiers. And then, after that happened, He sent another strong West wind and
blew the water back over the dikes. This is a historical fact! Why
don’t we hear this in history? For the same reason we don’t hear
when Louis XIV brought his army across the river into Holland to kill
all those Dutch, in 1672, right around there, that the river, right
where the army was crossing, thawed out, and the whole French army
went to the bottom of the river, as a result of the prayers of those
Protestants of Holland. We’re not taught that either! The assassination of William of Orange was probably the second most
significant act of Jesuit dominance, next to the murder of Coligny at
St. Bartholomew’s Massacre. Because it was first St. Bartholomew’s
massacre, and then the murder of William of Orange. And, of course,
William of Orange was shot by a Jesuit-controlled assassin, Balthazar
Girard, in his own house. And the last words of William, of course,
were: "God be merciful to these poor people." Martin: What is the Royal Institute of International
Affairs? Phelps: The Royal Institute of International Affairs is the
same as the American Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The Royal
Institute runs England and the British Empire, what was once the
extension of the British, just as the CFR runs our country. They’re
sister organizations. Martin: Where are they based? Phelps: They’re based in London. Martin: And who is their head; do you know? Phelps: I don’t know right now. The John Birch Society
wrote a lot about that, and they did expose the CFR and the Royal
Institute of International Affairs. Allan Stang has written a lot
about that. Martin: What was the "Gunpowder Plot" of 1605? Phelps: The Gunpowder Plot of 1605 was the Jesuits attempt
to destroy what William Howitt—and Howitt was the great writer who
wrote A Popular History Of Priestcraft, 1835—he said it was a
Jesuit attempt to destroy our Great King Solomon, King James I, along
with the entire Protestant Parliament. Because remember, Elizabeth I
had expelled the Jesuits from her empire, and if they were ever caught
they were to be drawn and quartered. After she died, the conspiracy went on there that went on with
William Cecil. They named Mary Queen of Scott’s son as the King of
England, rather than Elizabeth’s son, because Elizabeth had a son
who was the Earl of South Hampton, Wriothesley, and that
was the son of Edward Devere, who we know as William Shakespeare. There was no William Shakespeare. The man was Edward Devere. He ran
the Globe Theater. He was the Lord Great Chamberlain to Queen
Elizabeth, and he secretly had a son who was the Third
Earl of South Hampton. He was the rightful heir to the thrown, not
King James VI of Scotland. You can find all this documented in two great works: the first is
called Shakespeare Identified and the author is Looney. The
explosion of that book is called This Star Of England, written
by Carlton and Dorothy Ogborn, in 1952, and it’s a 1200-page work,
and in it they explain all the plays of Shakespeare, and that they
are, in the words of Hamlet: "A brief abstract and chronicle of
the times." Nothing but history. And then there’s another book, Wasn’t Shakespeare Someone
Else?, written by Tweeny, and in that book he evaluates the 150
sonnets. In those sonnets Edward Devere put his name: Vere or Uvre or
Vere—he puts his name in acrostics throughout all the sonnets. And
the last couple sonnets he puts his name in double acrostics. It’s
amazing, showing that he wrote the sonnets. Martin: Why were the Jesuits so upset about the Edict of
Nantes, and what was it’s significance? Phelps: Ok, the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes—it can
be spelled Nantes or Nantz. Anyway, the Edict of Nantes was put
forward by King Henry IV. King Henry IV was a Roman Catholic, but he
converted to Protestantism and he became a Huguenot. But he was not
allowed to take the throne of France until he renounced his
Protestantism. So, for the sake of the kingdom, he renounced his
Protestantism, and in 1610, I believe, issued forth the Edict of
Nantes. The Edict of Nantes guaranteed religious freedom to all the French.
That included the Protestant, Calvinist, Huguenots, which of course
included those who would have followed Admiral Coligny, who the
Jesuits murdered with that she-wolf, Catherine de Medici. With the
Edict of Nantes we have religious liberty in France. This cannot be.
France is a cornerstone of Jesuit power, so it cannot allow this to be
in place. The Council of Trent condemns it, because it’s freedom of
conscience. So, after they murder Henry IV with Ravaillac, when they stabbed
him through his heart, according to Sully in his memoirs, they
murdered Henry IV for this, and also for attempting to reinforce the
Dutch. They then, in 1685—when the Beatles are singing about the
"Sun King" in their "white" album, they’re
singing about Louis XIV. And that’s telling you that the Beatles are
Jesuit-controlled. The Sun King, Louis XIV who reigned, who rules over
France for, I believe, 60 years, he, because of his Jesuit confessor,
Pere La Chaise, revokes the Edict of Nantes, and with that, no more
religious freedom in France. And then they sent their French dragons out and beheaded and killed
every Huguenot they could find, driving 500,000 Frenchmen out of the
country, the wealth of France, the manhood of France, all left for
Holland and England. That destroyed France. From then on, France
became a nothing nation. The French Revolution could never have happened had not the
Revocation of the Edict of Nantes taken place. Because now, there’s
no Bible in France. And to this day, the French have never
published a French version of the Textus Receptus. Number one,
all French Bibles have been produced in foreign countries, when
they’ve been translated from the Greek Textus Receptus into
French; France has never done it. That shows the Jesuit power over
France to this day. And the French have probably been the most manly, the strongest,
the most gracious, the most determined in kicking the Jesuits out of
their country. They’ve kicked them out, to my knowledge, three
times—and again, they come back, foment wars, kill off the rulers,
etc. Drive Eugene Sue into exile; he dies of a broken heart. Drive
Calvin into exile; he can never return to France. All the great
Frenchmen are driven into exile. So we have, as American patriots, we have a great camaraderie for
the French. They helped us in our American Revolution. And why did
they help us? Because they’ve been expelled from France. Why did
Spain help us? Why did they help finance our Revolution? The Jesuits
had been expelled from Spain. So payback came for Spain and France,
for helping this heretic, Protestant nation come into existence, with
the Napoleonic Wars, when they killed Louis XVI and drove the Bubons
from the Spanish throne. That was payback. Martin: For 30 years of war, from
1618-1648, you state that the Jesuits, through Ferdinand II,
killed-off 10 million people. That’s quite a statement. Phelps: That statement comes from Ridpath’s History Of
The World, published in 1899. And that is his encyclopedia of his
history of the world. That was common knowledge in 1899. The 30 Years
War was hell on Earth for Europe. Two-thirds of Germany was brought
back to Rome. It was leveled, plundered, and destroyed. Wallenstein and Tilly were the fanatical Roman
Catholic generals who raped, pillaged, and plundered everything in
their path. But the Lord raised up certain great generals like
Gustavus Adolphus from Sweden. He was called the "Snow King"
and he was the one who ultimately, he paved the way for the victory of
the 30 Years War. But without that Protestant victory of the 30 Years War, the peace
of Westphalia, which the Pope was not invited to, there would
have been no modern era as we know it today. According to any
historian, the modern era begins in 1648. That is when the 80 Year War
in Holland ended with Spain. That is when the 30 Years War ended with
Ferdinand II and the Protestants of Germany, and Sweden, and so-on. 1648 is the wonderful year in which the Modern Era began, when
inventors could go to Germany and say: "Well, you know, maybe the
Earth isn’t flat." And maybe Leeuwenhoek could invent the
microscope in Holland, and now, later on, James Clerk Maxwell, who was
a Bible-believing, Protestant Presbyterian, he can write his
treatise called Electricity And Magnetism, the father of what
we know today about electricity and magnetism. Now, science can
blossom and bloom. Now we can have literature. Now we can have great
writers, like Sir Walter Scott, who writes great works like Ivanhoe
and Peveril Of The Peak. Now we can have
Charles Dickens, another Protestant, who writes A Tale Of
Two Cities, one of London and the other of Rome. We have great
literature surfacing as a result of the Modern Era. But the Jesuits, in their determination to destroy the Reformation
and the Modern Era and bring us back to the Dark Ages, seek to reverse
the effects of the Modern Era, and thus, what was brought about by the
30 Years War. And to know the 30 Years War is to understand the second
30 Years War, which started in 1914 and ended in 1945. Martin: In 1639, the Jesuits were also expelled from Japan.
Apparently the Jesuits never forgot that. Phelps: They never forgot it. For over 200 years they have
been expelled. And remember the words of Lincoln: "The Jesuits
never forget nor forsake." So, payback time was coming for Japan. The Emperor had expelled
them, so that dynasty was targeted. Ultimately, the Emperor would be
destroyed or his dynasty would end. And so payback time was the mass
fire-bombings by the American Air Force, financed by the Jesuits, as
the Jesuits own Lockheed, Boeing, McDonald-Douglas, and Grumman, and
they used their B-29 to firebomb Japan to smithereens. You can get
the fact that the Jesuits control these aircraft companies from Avro
Manhattan’s The Vatican Billions. Martin: I’m trying to get a little more current here, but
some of this older stuff is also so fascinating, I’m going back and
forth here. Our readers are just going to have to be a little flexible
in their reading. (laughter) Phelps: Right. Martin: In 1649 there was the Irish Massacre. What was it,
and let’s discuss the hatred between the Protestants and Catholics
in Ireland, as a result of the Irish Massacre. Phelps: Ok. Of course, we believe in freedom of speech,
freedom of conscience, freedom of the press. That is an outgrowth of
Protestantism, because all Protestants were defending their right to
believe the Bible in the face of Rome’s expectations to
believe the priests and the decrees of the Popes. Many of the Irish were born-again. They came to know the Lord. Much
preaching was done up there. In fact, Patrick, of St. Patrick’s Day,
was no Catholic. He was a Protestant. And so, he was a great
Protestant preacher of Ireland, and many, many Irish came to know the
Lord. And their point of location was primarily in the North, in
Northern Ireland, which today is Ulster, Belfast, etc. Well, the Jesuits, in fulfilling their Bloody Oath that we are
making and waging relentless war on all Protestants, and all political
liberals, they hatched-out the plot to kill all the Irish Protestants
in Ireland with the O’Neil family. And I wonder if that O’Neil
family was related to Tip O’Neil? In 1641, the massacre began, carried out by Roman Catholic nobles
and the mobs in Ireland. When they started that massacre, it continued
from 1641 to 1649. The massacre ended when they killed 150,000, but
they still taught the Catholic children to kill the Protestant
children. So, Irish Protestants were being massacred, enmasse, for 8
years. This is NEVER told whenever anybody is ever talking about Oliver
Cromwell, when Cromwell came up with his Puritan Army
and ended that, when he took Drogheda, and killed every living thing
in Drogheda—men, women, children, animal, everything. Ones say: "Oh, the beast Oliver Cromwell. Look what he did to
Drogheda!" What about those beasts killing those Irish
Protestants for 8 years, bashing out the brains of the little babies,
smashing them up against the walls like they did, led by the priests? This was just like they did in Croatia with the Serbs in World War
II, when they gouged-out the eyes of all the Serbians, where one
particular priest had 23 kilos worth of eyes. They were doing the same
thing to the Irish Protestants. So, when Cromwell came up, and it was vengeance for the Irish
Massacre, and the Irish Massacre was NOT started by the Protestants,
it was started by the Jesuits according to Fox’s Book Of Martyrs.
And you can find the whole narration there, which was a classic that
all Englishmen used to read with the King James Bible.
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See Rev 2:9 & 3:9. These are the ones who claim to
be "Jews", but are NOT "Jews".
They are the worshippers of Satan, and are his chosen seed
line on this earth to do HIS WILL, even as we are Jah's
chosen people called to do His!!! There is nothing new
under the sun. Satan can only counterfeit what Jah
does, and he DOES DO JUST THAT.